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I've received a lot of interesting comments and questions from Sudoku fans over the last year and it's about time space was made for these on this site as a feedback column.

I don't want to put off anyone who wants to contact me privately so I will be very happy to receive emails directly at .

Or you can use the form and choose "private" on the form below. But if you don't mind sharing your comment or question leave the selection on "public". Included in the form is a field for a particular Sudoku if your feedback includes one. All interesting puzzles are welcome. Do state where you found it. Comments are listed in date order.

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Monday 16-Mar-2009

... by: Felix, California

I was trying the Escargot sample from your page and it seems the solver runs out of strategies. However, your solution counter does show that there is exactly one solution. Is this a known issue?
Andrew Stuart writes (21-Mar-2009):
There is a page about this puzzle here:
http://www.scanraid.com/Escargot

Thursday 12-Mar-2009

... by: Oliver B., Germany

Load Sudoku:

Hi Andrew,

I found this Sudoku X in a German magazine called "Sudoku Logisch Spezial" (Issue No. 14 from June 2008).
Some cells of the grid are restricted to even numbers. These are C7, C8, D3, E5, F2, G1, I2 and I7.
The difficulty is rated "easy"... *sigh*
After spending some hours I gave up, tried again some weeks later and so on - until today.
I remembered your web-site and wanted to be shown what I have overlooked and I the end it claimed "Run out of known strategies."

For you are interested in examples that can't be solved on this page I sent this to you. The SolutionCount-Button did not work! ("Not available just yet")

I don't know whether there is a solution derived from any strategies, maybe it is only a misprint, but the given one on the last pages of the magazine is this:

258634791
794512386
163789245
936145827
572863914
481927563
617258439
849376152
325491678


Apart from that I just can say that this homepage is a great benefit when stuck in a puzzle.
Thanks a lot.
Andrew Stuart writes (16-Mar-2009):
Hi Oliver

Thanks for your example. It is a flawed Sudoku X (or I hope you didn't miss a clue or transpose a number). If what you have given me is correct then the publisher has gone a bad job of checking their puzzles. I find 34 solutions for this puzzle, which is why it can't be solved logically.

(If anyone loads this, change the URL to be sudokuX.htm - it loads in the normal sudoku solver)

Sunday 8-Mar-2009

... by: François, France

Absolutely fantastic. Must have cost you a lot of work, how generous to share. Many Thanks.
Andrew Stuart writes (13-Mar-2009):
Built up gradually with a lotta suggestions and constructive criticism from many readers - all appreciated :)

Sunday 8-Mar-2009

... by: Doug M, SE PA

Finally, an explanation and example of the X-wing I understand. Thank you.
Andrew Stuart writes (13-Mar-2009):
:)

Friday 20-Feb-2009

... by: Martin, France

wow! this is nice! great job Andrew !
Andrew Stuart writes (1-Mar-2009):
Thanks ! :)

Sunday 15-Feb-2009

... by: Carl, USA - California

Hi Andrew,

I'd like to put in a plug for a feature. I tried using the save and restore feature on your regular solver page "http://www.scanraid.com/sudoku.htm", and the results were nearly what I had expected. Any solved squares in the saved cookie were restored.

My request is to make this feature much much more useful. I actually use your solver as an aid (an online blackboard mostly) to hold the candidates for each cell, as I work on solving "Killer Sudoku" puzzles. I click on each cell of a cage and enter the possible candidates as restricted by the cage values. What I would like your SAVE function to do, is to save all the candidates from the screen to the cookie, and restore all the selected candidates when RE-LOAD is selected. If a sell is "solved", it will only have one candidate, if it is unsolved, it will contain 2 or more candidates. This could be accomplished by using a comma or semicolon separated list instead of just a list of 81 digits/characters. Since my reason for asking is so that I can save the state when I'm working a puzzle, or stuck and want to return later, the major work in getting back t where I was is resetting the candidates. The current RE-LOAD function is useful, but f makes me re-eliminate all the candidates that I've already eliminated in prior work.

Thanks.

-Carl


Andrew Stuart writes (1-Mar-2009):
Good idea. I've implemented it. Let me know if you find a bug but I've tested it in several browsers. Not rolled out to Sudoku X or Jigsaw yet though.

Wednesday 11-Feb-2009

... by: Peter B, Los Angeles, CA (ex-pat Brit originally from Oxford, UK)

After sporadic attempts to solve Sudoku puzzles in the LA Times I learned some very basic strategies but there's a limit to how accurately you can work using an erasable pen and the original printed puzzle (!).

So I turned to Google and after looking at a few sites I came across yours - and a welcome breath of fresh air :)

Congratulations on the work you've done - this is an excellent tool for newcomers and old hands alike IMHO. I know my skills have certainly benefited greatly from it. More power to your elbow!
Andrew Stuart writes (1-Mar-2009):
Really appreciated, thanks!

Tuesday 10-Feb-2009

... by: Dennis, USA

Andrew, Is a puzzle possible in which the two diagonals (A1 to J9 and A9 to J1) are also unique 1 - 9 numbers? If so, please post it in at least a "hard" format. Thanks
Andrew Stuart writes (1-Mar-2009):
This is perfectly possible but for Sudoku puzzles it will be a coincidence. It is possible to put this constraint in the way they are created but there is no reason to. However, you should look at Sudoku X where this feature is done by design. I have a solver and some additional strategies for this puzzle, which is quite fun

Saturday 31-Jan-2009

... by: rodnishi, hawaii

your page is an excellent resource for solving difficult sudokus and learning the complex stategies.

i have a question and i don't see it in the strategy explanation. how does the hidden unique rectangle work? when i was rying to solve a puzzle, one of the steps involved the hidden unique rectangle.

mahalo,
rod
Andrew Stuart writes (1-Feb-2009):
Hi, I have decided to split out 'Hidden Unique Rectangles' from the 'Unique Rectangles' strategy as I've had many emails about this. There is a strategy page for it here /Hidden_Unique_Rectangles
- but it was not obvious how to find that page. Hopefully this will make it clearer.
All the best with your solving

Friday 30-Jan-2009

... by: Ygor, Netherands

Hi Andrew,

This is a great site! I am wondering what the score is of the most difficult sukoku that your solve can solve? And do you have this sudoku as an example?

Cheers,

Ygor
Andrew Stuart writes (1-Feb-2009):
The very high scores are above 2000. My sovler/grader plots puzzles in a bell curve but the right hand side exhibits what is known as a 'long tail' - that is some extreme puzzles will go off the scale usually because of a large number of Almost Locked Sets. While the solver includes Trial and Error strategies such as Nisho and Bowmans Bingo I don't like to include those in the grades. I filter these out as unacceptable for publishing but they would be candidates for very high scores. An example is THIS ONE
which I score as 2528 but this won't show up on the web site grader as I exclude Nishio/Bowmans, but you are welcome to discover a better solve solution that doesn't involve them - I'd be very interested to see one.

Wednesday 28-Jan-2009

... by: Dena, US

Load Sudoku:

Your solver found a unique rectangle with 1s and 7s in R1C2, R1C7, R3C2, and R3C7. I read the explanation on unique rectangles but I still don't understand. Which are the floor squares (only R1C2 has 2 candidates)? Which are the roof squares? Why is only a 1 eliminated? Why is it only eliminated from 1 square? What does it mean when it says 7s are strong candidates?

I love your solver but the explanations sometimes omit information. Maybe if you are really good at Sudoku it is obvious but I'm still a novice.

Thanks for your help!
Andrew Stuart writes (1-Feb-2009):
I've split this type of unique rectangle out because people were not finding the correct strategy page. This is at
/Hidden_Unique_Rectangles
and there is now a link to it from the solver. Hope that helps!
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