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Post an idea here... Discussion... Wednesday 22-Feb-2012... by: jemfor Gnomeface: there's a popular misconception about Sudoku puzzle solving regarding what constitues "logic". The fact of the matter is that "trial and error" is iron-clad logic when used to eliminate candidates - the trial of a particular candidate that leads to an error (i.e., an unsolvable puzzle) is a 100% logical proof that the particular candidate can be eliminated.Monday 20-Feb-2012... by: Andrew StuartMiss numbered number 42 - there were two 43s. Sorry about that! Fixed now and you can go back to 42Monday 20-Feb-2012... by: X.I manually solved this using an extension of 3D Medusa after a few simple initial steps. Spent a couple of hours on it.Sunday 19-Feb-2012... by: Gnomefaceps. I've just seen the earlier comments and haven't a clue what they are talking about... so I guess that I'm out of my depth and my comment below is irrelevant! Apologies - I've just come across this site.Sunday 19-Feb-2012... by: GnomefaceMy solver can't solve this with direct logic, but its next level is to try each remaining possible number using its normal logical rules to see if the choice results in another unsolved cell having no possible valid number. If so, the selected original number is invalid. OK, this is part logic, part trial and error, but it does find that 4 of the possible numbers remaining (after exhausting the standard logic levels) would give at least one impossible cell - and when these 4 are removed the solution drops out.Sunday 19-Feb-2012... by: iwlsorry, this is last weeks sudoku nr. 43, can we get a new one `?Friday 17-Feb-2012... by: Jean-Claude CasariWell done, Scott, but what are your logical steps ????Thursday 16-Feb-2012... by: Scott BaileyThis was very simple with my solver.Solved in: 0.75 seconds Sunday 12-Feb-2012... by: CenomanA side observation : Andrew, you skipped #42 in your "unsolveable" puzzle numbering...Solution for this #43, got from the "full tagging" method, with results transcripted in your notations. After the first three eliminations with AICs (-7B3, -2J1, -1J5, and subsequent -1H7) the puzzle is unlocked by the following two steps : #1 -7J2, using a forcing net. As it will appear several times, the derived SIS (8)G9=G2-(3)G2=J2 is replaced by the shortcut 8G9=3J2 6J4-J79=(6-8)G9=3J2 || 6C4-(4)C4=C8-G8|=2G8-(2-8)H7-G9=3J2 _______________|=(3)G8-G2=J2 || 6B4-B9|=(7)B9-E9=E12-F3=G3 ______|=(8)B9-G9=3J2 => derived strong link 7G3=3J2 =>-7J2 For those who prefer TM tables, another proof of the same : 7G3_7F3 ____7E12_7E9 3J2__________3G2 _____________8G2_8G9 _________7B9_____8B9_6B9 _________________8H7_____2H7 ______________3G8________2G8_4G8 _____________________________4C8_4C4 _________________6G9_________________6J79 _____________________6B4_________6C4_6J4 #2 -2J2, also using a forcing net. 4A9-A6=C4-J4|=2J4 ____________|=(6)J4-J79=(6-8)G9=3J2 4J9-J4|=2J4 ______|=(6)J4-J79=(6-8)G9=3J2 4G9-8G9=3J2 => derived strong link 2J4=3J2 =>-2J2 TM table : 3J2_3G2 ____8G2_8G9 ________6G9_6J79 2J4_________6J4__4J4 _________________4C4_4A6 ________4G9______4J9_4A9 #3 The solver is now able to get the solution with AICs only Sunday 12-Feb-2012... by: simonettaUn pò Impegnativo ma con mezz'ora tutto risolto!! |
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